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		<title>By: Miriam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Miriam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 11:04:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I support this move by a man who has the people at heart.

What good would it do us to go to vote when people are being misled.  People have been told that when they vote the serial number of their ballot paper will be noted and they will be questioned later about their vote.   Such shenanigans and nonsense.

I admire the stance taken by Mr Tsvangirai - Its stopped the world.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I support this move by a man who has the people at heart.</p>
<p>What good would it do us to go to vote when people are being misled.  People have been told that when they vote the serial number of their ballot paper will be noted and they will be questioned later about their vote.   Such shenanigans and nonsense.</p>
<p>I admire the stance taken by Mr Tsvangirai &#8211; Its stopped the world.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Stoneman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Stoneman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 02:04:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[At first, I too was disappointed, but Tsvangirai&#039;s action seems to have got the international community&#039;s attention, and I&#039;m not just talking about the West, which Mugabe doesn&#039;t care about, but also Africa&#039;s. To be fair, I&#039;ve never been to Zimbabwe and I am viewing the events from the east coast of the United States.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At first, I too was disappointed, but Tsvangirai&#8217;s action seems to have got the international community&#8217;s attention, and I&#8217;m not just talking about the West, which Mugabe doesn&#8217;t care about, but also Africa&#8217;s. To be fair, I&#8217;ve never been to Zimbabwe and I am viewing the events from the east coast of the United States.</p>
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		<title>By: Hope</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hope</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 15:25:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[People voted for change before and we got more repression and more violence - the election on the 27 would do nothing more than invite wholesale slaughter just as S Davies said.  What the MDC did was to say that they are not prepared to put the lives of their supporters, the majority of the population at further risk.  It was a great act of love for the people not a betrayal.
A report on Al Jezeera showed ZANU PF  today handing out beatings and glossy campaign materials.   The UN are fon board , South Africa has signed up to a condemnation, SADC leaders  one by one are asking for a stop to the violence - Don&#039;t you ask for blood now!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People voted for change before and we got more repression and more violence &#8211; the election on the 27 would do nothing more than invite wholesale slaughter just as S Davies said.  What the MDC did was to say that they are not prepared to put the lives of their supporters, the majority of the population at further risk.  It was a great act of love for the people not a betrayal.<br />
A report on Al Jezeera showed ZANU PF  today handing out beatings and glossy campaign materials.   The UN are fon board , South Africa has signed up to a condemnation, SADC leaders  one by one are asking for a stop to the violence &#8211; Don&#8217;t you ask for blood now!</p>
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		<title>By: Geoff Hughes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Geoff Hughes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 09:57:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well said, S Davies! At least now Mugabe will be deprived of even a veneer of legality that this sham election would have been forced to deliver, regardless of whether the long suffering electorate might have even succeeded in casting their majority vote against him. Mugabe may be able to cling to power with brute force but he doesn&#039;t seem to realise he is powerless against the laws of economics so with inflation out of control, the economy in free fall, mass emigration of the starving masses his power base is dwindling fast. Maybe God will indeed hear his challenge and finally rid the world of him as no-one else appears willing to do so!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said, S Davies! At least now Mugabe will be deprived of even a veneer of legality that this sham election would have been forced to deliver, regardless of whether the long suffering electorate might have even succeeded in casting their majority vote against him. Mugabe may be able to cling to power with brute force but he doesn&#8217;t seem to realise he is powerless against the laws of economics so with inflation out of control, the economy in free fall, mass emigration of the starving masses his power base is dwindling fast. Maybe God will indeed hear his challenge and finally rid the world of him as no-one else appears willing to do so!</p>
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		<title>By: S Davies</title>
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		<dc:creator>S Davies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 21:26:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Fair points! 

But from an outside view, by Sunday it looked as though people weren&#039;t even going to make it to their longed-for vote. If they hadn&#039;t been chased away from their ward; if they hadn&#039;t had their ID &quot;confiscated&quot;; if they could still walk or be carried, or still owned a hand to mark the paper...there would be dozens of roadblocks to get through...a tiny minority of stations would be monitored, even by the virtually useless SADC monitors...about 10 local monitors had been accredited...there would be no polling agents from MDC at any but a handful of stations, and those who managed to get there would without doubt be hunted down at the earliest opportunity.  After all this, the ballots were clearly going to be stuffed, ZEC personnel are now firmly in the grip of the military (even if they weren&#039;t before) and top leaders have already said they won&#039;t accept an electoral defeat. 

The decision has been widely applauded internationally, and expert legal opinion from Southern African Litigation Centre says that Mugabe has not necessarily been handed a victory in anyone&#039;s eyes but his own, since the run off may &quot;on a technicality&quot; (and not a minor one either), be unconstitutional. According to this view Tsvangirai is the legitimate winner.  There will be a final push, of that there can be no doubt - just not in this sham election run off.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fair points! </p>
<p>But from an outside view, by Sunday it looked as though people weren&#8217;t even going to make it to their longed-for vote. If they hadn&#8217;t been chased away from their ward; if they hadn&#8217;t had their ID &#8220;confiscated&#8221;; if they could still walk or be carried, or still owned a hand to mark the paper&#8230;there would be dozens of roadblocks to get through&#8230;a tiny minority of stations would be monitored, even by the virtually useless SADC monitors&#8230;about 10 local monitors had been accredited&#8230;there would be no polling agents from MDC at any but a handful of stations, and those who managed to get there would without doubt be hunted down at the earliest opportunity.  After all this, the ballots were clearly going to be stuffed, ZEC personnel are now firmly in the grip of the military (even if they weren&#8217;t before) and top leaders have already said they won&#8217;t accept an electoral defeat. </p>
<p>The decision has been widely applauded internationally, and expert legal opinion from Southern African Litigation Centre says that Mugabe has not necessarily been handed a victory in anyone&#8217;s eyes but his own, since the run off may &#8220;on a technicality&#8221; (and not a minor one either), be unconstitutional. According to this view Tsvangirai is the legitimate winner.  There will be a final push, of that there can be no doubt &#8211; just not in this sham election run off.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 15:52:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is a summation of exactly my feelings towards the opposition and unfortunately this move by the MDC invalidates the sacrifices (albeit unnecessary and horrific) of those who have suffered in this sham of an election. Appreciating that options are limited for the MDC in this climate of violence and repression, I still refuse to support the admitting of defeat that the MDC seems bent on. They need to become a &quot;revolutionary movement&quot; (as sadly ironic as that might be) and be willing to go to the wall for freedom from tyranny.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a summation of exactly my feelings towards the opposition and unfortunately this move by the MDC invalidates the sacrifices (albeit unnecessary and horrific) of those who have suffered in this sham of an election. Appreciating that options are limited for the MDC in this climate of violence and repression, I still refuse to support the admitting of defeat that the MDC seems bent on. They need to become a &#8220;revolutionary movement&#8221; (as sadly ironic as that might be) and be willing to go to the wall for freedom from tyranny.</p>
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